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Gerrie
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:15 pm |
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Vet tomorrow and she may recommend antibiotics for tummy bugs. Any I should avoid please? Appointment at 9:15 ... I always panic when my girls aren’t right Thank you. X |
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beardielady
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:23 pm |
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Try to avoid potentiated sulphonamides - trimethoprim etc. They have been implicated in cases of severe adverse effects, some autoimmune. I have found there is usually an alternative the vet can prescribe. |
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Mac & Tali
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:27 pm |
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Hi Gerrie... I can't give you any definitive info, but Mackenzie had antibiotics for a tummy infection and Tali had them for a skin infection both worked without any obvious side effects. |
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Jacquietwig
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:53 pm |
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They usually prescribe Metronidazol for that sort of thing, there are potential problems as with all drugs but I haven't had a problem with it. |
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Cornish Cleo
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:59 pm |
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Hi Gerrie, my last boy became seriously ill with metronidazole toxicity and ended up hospitalised for 3 weeks under a specialist canine neurologist at the Animal Health Trust in Cambridgeshire. Fortunately we caught it in time and he made a full recovery but it was an incredibly frightening experience and having seen the potentially irreversible nerve damage it produced, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole on another dog. Which is probably silly, as I have taken it myself with no adverse effects, but once bitten, twice shy as they say.
Hope the girls are back to full health again soon. Xx |
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Jacquietwig
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:00 pm |
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Wow CJ that's really scarey I've used it many times with no problems at all, but it just goes to show some dogs will react badly. Like you I've taken it myself with no problems. |
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beardielady
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:33 pm |
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Cornish Cleo was your Beardie old? I have heard of several cases where an old Beardie has had neurological problems after having Metronidazole. Also with a couple of them, they had had the medication previously and were okay but a few years later had the adverse effects when they had the drug again. Another one had been on the medication for some months and had a severe reaction.
I am not sure whether the Metronidazole could be linked to a MDR1 reaction or perhaps it is that like some other drugs, the drug can stay in the elderly's system longer and cause problems.......? |
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Gerrie
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:32 pm |
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Well, thank you all for your input. I have made notes..
We weren’t given any antibiotics but at least I went prepared.
Girls are healthy apart from dire rears .. she has given them Yudigest and Panacur wormer for the next few days and see how we go with that.
A swelling on Mols leg wasn’t considered a problem so I feel quite relieved. Nice vet .. I think she was about 12 yrs old but she knew all about the collie probs with meds.  |
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Jacquietwig
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:46 pm |
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beardielady wrote: |
Cornish Cleo was your Beardie old? I have heard of several cases where an old Beardie has had neurological problems after having Metronidazole. Also with a couple of them, they had had the medication previously and were okay but a few years later had the adverse effects when they had the drug again. Another one had been on the medication for some months and had a severe reaction.
I am not sure whether the Metronidazole could be linked to a MDR1 reaction or perhaps it is that like some other drugs, the drug can stay in the elderly's system longer and cause problems.......? |
I lost my first working bred beardie just before Christmas she was 15 and had needed Metronidazol on many occasions during her life due to a health problem she had as a puppy. She was on it just before she died (liver tumour) and had no problems with it. She was MDR1 negative. I know she was working bred but maybe that does back your theory. |
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:37 pm |
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How are Lizzie and Mollie doing now? Hope you're managing to get some sleep and you're all doing better.
I had never heard of AB's being so dangerous but yet another thing to look out forx . Horrified by your experience CJ! xx |
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Gerrie
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:06 pm |
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Thank you for asking. I slept through until the alarm last night .. eight lovely hours
Lizzie is back to normal and Mollie almost is so I am hoping that by middle next week all will be fine. They are both happy and bouncy.
Will certainly keep some youdigest in for them. Glad we didn’t need antibiotics. |
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:33 pm |
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Oh that sounds good and hope all continues to go well for all xxx |
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judy g
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:52 pm |
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Yay Gerrie, good to hear...xx |
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:51 am |
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So glad to hear that everything is back to normal! And also that no antibiotics were needed - I try to stay away from them as much as I can (for myself too!) when alternatives can be found, but of course sometimes they can't be avoided. Then I give my dogs/cats some yogurt everyday for at least a week to help their internal flora to survive... |
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:44 am |
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Glad you're all feeling better  |
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