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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi vet has suggested sileo or pexion or valium for Fraser's fire work aversion.

Has anyone had any experience of any of these please?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Just did a quick search on Sileo and came across this:

https://dogadvertiser.com/is-sileo-for-dogs-dangerous-yes-and-heres-why-it-could-kill/

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Pexion seems to be a drug for Epilepsy Confused

https://www.pexion.co.uk/about-pexion/

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Have you tried Dorwest Valerian?

https://www.dorwest.com/

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi

Thanks for the info. we have tried skullcap and valerian to no avail. We had better results with Bachs rescue remedy. cotton wool balls gently inserted in lug holes also helped to start with but each year the reaction increases. Its going to be worse this year as his soul mate Pickle Puss had to cross the rainbow bridge last week at the age of 15 1/2. Her ashes currently reside on the Grandfather clock and he spends hours watching her.

Pexion as I understand it can also be used to reduce anxiety caused by noises but needs to started several days before .

I will read the info on Sileo as I didn't find it when I looked over the weekend

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hope you get some answers, it's such a worry with so many fireworks these days. The liquid valerian that Dorwest do is quite good and works quickly, might be worth a try if you don't find anything else. There is Zylkene which can be given throughout the firework season, it's only milk protein so harmless, I think it works for some dogs but not all. Might just help with overall calming along with whatever else you decide to use. Works best on cats I'm told.

Another thought have you tried an anxiety wrap?

Sorry, I seem to be answering a question you haven't actually asked! Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Been racking my brains to think what it was I used to give Heidi my last beardie who was noise sensitive especially with fireworks. I think it might have been ACP (which you can also give to horses but in much larger amounts). It was a pale yellow round tablet, it virtually knocked her out. She was very dopey for about 12-24 hours. I got it from the vet, who always did various health checks before prescribing it for her.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I know how worrying it can be when our Beardies are getting stressed with all the firework noise but I would not be wanting to give them drugs. I have not even heard of Sileo or Pexion so had to do a quick Google.

Heidiwuff, ACP (Acepromazine) is on the MDR1 gene list of drugs to avoid. Even if they do not have the gene they need to have the correct amount which should only make them relaxed for a few hours I would have thought.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes you are quite right beardielady it is on that list. My beardies have always had problems with the premeds as ACP is half of what they give them and it's too much for my beards.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've also tried, for my cats, the Feliway diffuser, a plug in airwick type thing that's supposed to help. Don't know if there's a canine equivalent, I haven't needed anything for a noise sensitive dog since Heidi (long gone to the bridge, bless her) but the Feliway one did seem to help the cats, who were elderly.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes they do one for dogs called Adaptil, I've used it to settle in pups and have found it useful.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Fortunately this year Mollie is too deaf to hear them and the puppy is too young to care Very Happy

I used to have a large fleece blanket and hold them tight. Worked for them.
How about hinder shirts??

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Should have said .. thunder shirts. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:06 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I saw a post on facecloth about putting a sock over the head (cut the toes out first & it would have to be a large sock) or if anyone could knit a tubular scarf of some sort. Apparently comforts them, as well as blocks a bit of noise. You pull it down around ears, keeping mouth free Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You can buy snoods for dogs, to keep long ears out of the food bowl, I wonder if that would do the same thing?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

A snood would be a better idea for mine as my socks are not big enough. Whatever it is I think it would have to be thick to help with the noise. Or if the dog lies down I have found throwing a cover over/around them helps. Or use a cage, large box or whatever and drape a duvet or blankets around and over it to make some sort of den.....you could go in there with it!

It is a dreadful time for lots of dogs and their owners. The most difficult thing, I have found is to stay calm and not get annoyed. It is not easy but I have found it can make a difference.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for all suggestions and helpful advice. I have decided to try the thunder shirt idea but the nightmare has already started, Following the latest announcement people are letting fireworks off already inconsiderate whatsits. Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We've had the wretched things going off here for the past week, lots more tonight on account of it being Halloween I suppose. They don't even wait for dark or dusk, its in broad daylight. My brave boy who is usually not that bothered - he barks at them - virtually dragged me home when a crackly one was let off in a field about a quarter of a mile away, followed by 2 or 3 more. The only time he's ever been like that was when we got caught in a thunderstorm with a thunderclap, and that was about 5 years ago. Only hope it hasn't affected him long term.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What is the point in setting them off in daylight!? Twisted Evil I despair sometimes Confused Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Me too Jacquie. Any excuse, it seems. We're used to the display type being let off in the fields about the same distance away, but those fields have high hedges formed by trees including hawthorn, and the sound is diffused a bit because of that. I suspect it was kids/teenagers from the housing estate that backs onto the first fields that set them off. What makes me so mad is that I deliberately walked Jethro BEFORE DARK knowing what was likely to happen, we had about 30-40 minutes before dusk, and our walk took 10 minutes. We should have been safe.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It just makes me MAD! Evil or Very Mad We are told walk dogs before dark and then keep them in, ha that doesn't work then. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I am now wondering, if with all the forthcoming Covid-19 restrictions, that people will bring their firework parties forward....well the ones that obey the restrictions that is! Then of course there will be Diwali...... Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:34 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh don't Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Diwali is usually worse than November 5th round here. Last year though it was almost like it never happened. Bet that isn't the case this year Crying or Very sad On a more optimistic note, I walked Jethro at 3.10pm today, same walk as yesterday afternoon, and no fireworks and he wasn't on edge at all. I didn't let him off lead just in case - its a round green with one way traffic, but if he was spooked I dread to think what would happen - but he was his usual jaunty self, barking as always Rolling Eyes Never thought I'd be so glad to hear him bark a lot!

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...Sir Barkalot? Cool

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